Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

01/24/2022 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:30:41 PM Start
03:31:31 PM SJR11
04:10:23 PM Adjourn
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*+ SJR 11 SUPPORTING ROAD BELT ELECTRICAL LINE TELECONFERENCED
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          SJR 11-SUPPORTING ROAD BELT ELECTRICAL LINE                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:31:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK   announced  the   consideration  of   SENATE  JOINT                                                               
RESOLUTION  NO.  11  Supporting  development  of  the  road  belt                                                               
electrical transmission  line; and  urging members of  the Alaska                                                               
delegation in  Congress to pursue  the development of  this high-                                                               
voltage electrical line in the interior of the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:33:33 PM                                                                                                                    
INTIMAYO  HARBISON, Staff,  Senator  Joshua  Revak, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,  introduced SJR 11 on  behalf of the                                                               
sponsor.  He  stated  that  this   is  not  the  first  time  the                                                               
legislature has  looked at this  issue. Alaska has  explored some                                                               
form of the road belt intertie  in both the 1980s and 1990s. Most                                                               
recently,   a   similar   resolution  passed   the   Thirty-first                                                               
Legislature,  Legislative  Resolve  3,  2019,  sponsored  by  the                                                               
former representative  from house district 6.  Mr. Harbison noted                                                               
that due to  the influx in federal  infrastructure spending, this                                                               
is  an  opportune  time  to   direct  the  attention  of  federal                                                               
officials to  viable infrastructure  projects here in  Alaska. He                                                               
said that this resolution urges  our federal delegation to relook                                                               
at the viability of a rail  belt project in today's market and to                                                               
explore  the  most  effective and  efficient  method  to  provide                                                               
reliable power to people and communities along the road belt.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARBISON  read  the following  sponsor  statement  into  the                                                               
record.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The development  of the Road Belt  electrical inter-tie                                                                    
     transmission   line  would   create   a  high   voltage                                                                    
     electrical  line  running  from Sutton  to  Glennallen,                                                                    
     where a  sub-transmission line  would extend  to Gakona                                                                    
     and  on  to Tok  and  north  through the  upper  Tanana                                                                    
     region to Delta Junction. The  final leg of the project                                                                    
     would run from just south  of Fort Greely, back down to                                                                    
     Gakona.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     This  resolution  supports  infrastructure  development                                                                    
     for    energy   and    national   security,    economic                                                                    
     development,  and natural  resources  in  the State  of                                                                    
     Alaska. The  Trans Alaska  Pipeline would  benefit from                                                                    
     the low-cost  energy provided by the  transmission line                                                                    
     in the operation of the  pipeline and protection of its                                                                    
     off-grid pump stations.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     A  high-voltage  electrical   line  would  complete  an                                                                    
     electrical  transmission  bus   loop  and  establish  a                                                                    
     second path  for power  transmission from  Anchorage to                                                                    
     Fairbanks  which is  needed  during  disasters such  as                                                                    
     earthquakes.  With the  infrastructure development  and                                                                    
     the increase  in population at Eielson  Air Force Base,                                                                    
     Fort Greely and  the Clear Air Force  Station, the need                                                                    
     for power in the region will increase significantly.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     This  resolution urges  Congress  to  advocate for  the                                                                    
     security   of   the  nation's   northernmost   military                                                                    
     installations  and oil  infrastructure by  pursuing the                                                                    
     development of the Road Belt Inter-tie.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:36:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK called for questions from the committee members.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  requested a  map with  clearer detail  to better                                                               
differentiate the  proposed transmission lines from  the existing                                                               
transmission lines.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK stated that the requested map would be produced.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:37:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  requested verification the resolution  would be                                                               
held in committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI pointed  out a  technical issue.  He said  that                                                               
when this  resolution was drafted  there was an  Acting Secretary                                                               
of Interior; now a Secretary of the Interior has been appointed.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI  asked what the  anticipated rate  increases are                                                               
for those affected by the improved transmission lines.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARBISON  answered that  question will  be answered  later by                                                               
invited testifiers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK introduced testifiers and opened invited testimony.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:39:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CRYSTAL  ENKVIST, Executive  Director, Alaska  Power Association,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  testified in  support of  SJR 11.  She stated                                                               
the Alaska Power Association (APA)  is the statewide organization                                                               
for  electric   utilities  whose   members  provide   power  from                                                               
Utqiagvik  to Unalaska,  through the  Interior and  Southcentral,                                                               
and  down   the  Inside  Passage.   APA  strongly   supports  the                                                               
deployment of electric  transmission infrastructure that advances                                                               
the  availability of  reliable power  to Alaskans  and stimulates                                                               
economic  development.  She  stated   the  road  belt  electrical                                                               
intertie transmission line is such  a project. The major benefits                                                               
would  include  the  electrical  interconnection  of  the  Copper                                                               
Valley  -  Richardson  Highway  region  of  the  state  with  the                                                               
existing  Railbelt  transmission  grid. Ms. Enkvist  stated  that                                                               
should the  state receive federal  funding support,  this project                                                               
would:                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       Increase regional system reliability by providing                                                                        
       redundancy to the single transmission circuit that                                                                       
     currently links the Fairbanks area with Anchorage.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Allow for the integration of more renewable energy.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          Enhance the reliability of power to military                                                                          
     installations in the Interior and Southcentral areas.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Increase economic development opportunities throughout                                                                     
     the greater Copper Valley region.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ENKVIST   stated  the  Alaska  Power   Association  supports                                                               
exploratory  efforts  for the  road  belt  project, including  an                                                               
analysis  of  transmission   infrastructure  options  to  achieve                                                               
increased  regional  reliability  and  more  affordable  electric                                                               
rates for  residents in  the Copper  Valley -  Richardson Highway                                                               
region.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:41:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  what  the electric  rates  are in  Copper                                                               
Valley and other communities she mentioned.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ENKVIST  deferred  specific   rate  questions  to  the  next                                                               
testifier,  Travis   Million,  CEO  of  Copper   Valley  Electric                                                               
Association that serves the Valdez to Glennallen area.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  which communities  are  served by  Copper                                                               
Valley.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. ENKVIST answered the communities  she mentioned are served by                                                               
Copper  Valley Electric,  but some  transmission lines  enter the                                                               
Golden Valley service area and NEA service area.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  said that he wants  to get an idea  of the rates                                                               
that are currently paid and how those rates could be improved.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ENKVIST responded  that she  would compile  that information                                                               
and provide it to the committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:42:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  referred to Ms.  Enkvist's previous  comments that                                                               
pertained  to additional  generation and  moving power.  He asked                                                               
how  much  excess generation  capacity  the  utilities have  that                                                               
could be  wheeled [moved] across  the line before  new generation                                                               
is built.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ENKVIST answered  the proposed  transmission system  has the                                                               
capability to transfer  at least 75 megawatts (MW)  of firm power                                                               
with an additional  50 MW of non-firm power  from Southcentral to                                                               
Fort Greely/Fairbanks.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  commented that  those  numbers  correlate to  the                                                               
capacity of the  line if he read the  scoping document correctly.                                                               
He rephrased  the question and asked  whether Matanuska Electric,                                                               
Golden Valley,  and Copper Valley  have that kind of  capacity to                                                               
wheel [move] or  to get to that kind of  transmission, or whether                                                               
new generation is needed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. ENKVIST  responded that she  would get back to  Senator Kiehl                                                               
with the answer.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  REVAK directed  Ms.  Enkvist  to send  the  answer to  the                                                               
Senate Resources Committee for distribution.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:44:47 PM                                                                                                                    
TRAVIS MILLION,  Chief Executive  Office, Copper  Valley Electric                                                               
Association,  Copper  Center,  Alaska, testified  in  support  of                                                               
SJR 11. Mr.  Million said that  Copper Valley  Electric corporate                                                               
headquarters is located  in Glennallen. He indicated  that it has                                                               
a large  service area but  serves just 3800 members.  The service                                                               
territory  is  as  far  south  as  Valdez,  160  miles  north  to                                                               
Sourdough, 100  miles east and  west from Caribou  Creek (between                                                               
Glennallen and Palmer),  and up the Tok Cutoff Highway  as far as                                                               
the  High  Frequency  Active  Auroral  Research  Program  (HAARP)                                                               
Research Facility.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLION  stated  that Copper  Valley  Electric  scoped  this                                                               
project  and conducted  a number  of feasibility  studies in  the                                                               
past.  Previously,   the  Copper   Valley  Electric   study  only                                                               
investigated  a  tie  between  Sutton  and  Glennallen.  Now  the                                                               
proposed transmission has expanded to  include a loop through Tok                                                               
and Delta Junction.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLION  spoke to the merits  of a loop feed.  Currently, the                                                               
only  transmission infrastructure  in Alaska  runs from  Homer to                                                               
Fairbanks; he  joked that in the  industry this is called  a long                                                               
extension  cord, a  point-to-point  line  without redundancy.  He                                                               
said if  this line were  to go down  due to natural  disaster, an                                                               
alternative  route does  not exist  to move  power from  north to                                                               
south. This  proposal provides  a solution  to that  problem. The                                                               
road  belt line  creates  an alternate  route,  a redundant  loop                                                               
through Glennallen, up to Tok, then over to Delta Junction.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:46:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MILLION indicated  that this project would  affect 75 percent                                                               
of   the  state's   population.  It   would  provide   additional                                                               
reliability,  capacity,  and  reduced energy  cost  for  isolated                                                               
utilities, such as,  Copper Valley Electric and  Alaska Power and                                                               
Telephone.  He responded  to a  previously  asked question  which                                                               
pertained  to electricity  rates.  Mr. Million  said that  Copper                                                               
Valley rates during  the summer, when hydro is  available, are 18                                                               
cents per Kilowatt hour(kWh). This  winter, due to extremely high                                                               
diesel  costs, rates  average  nearly  40 cents  per  kWh in  the                                                               
Copper  River Basin  and  in Valdez.  He  emphasized that  Copper                                                               
Valley  Electric   Association  does   not  receive   power  cost                                                               
equalization (PCE) funds through the state of Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLION   stated  the  loop   would  provide   security  and                                                               
reliability  for multiple  Department of  Defense facilities  and                                                               
potentially Alyeska  Pipeline Services Company. This  project has                                                               
garnered  a lot  of broad  support, including  financial support,                                                               
from  communities  along  the  route, as  well  as  from  utility                                                               
companies  and  Native  corporations.  Entities  that  were  once                                                               
opposed to  this project in  the 1990s have now  provided letters                                                               
of support.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLION  pointed out  that  in  2019 the  Denali  Commission                                                               
performed a reconnaissance study  which looked at the feasibility                                                               
for this loop feed. He read  the "Conclusion" from the study into                                                               
the record:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Reconnaissance-level  engineering   evaluation  of  the                                                                    
     road  belt  intertie  project   indicates  that  it  is                                                                    
     technically  feasible. Implementing  it would  increase                                                                    
     DoD facility resilience  and electric power reliability                                                                    
     throughout the Alaska road system.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLION stated  that the Railbelt utilities  currently seek a                                                               
second transmission  line; the utilities would  probably consider                                                               
the road belt  project for the second line. He  concluded that he                                                               
supports these efforts.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:49:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS  inquired  about  the factors  which  cause  the                                                               
electricity rates to vary so much between summer and winter.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLION responded  that Copper Valley Electric  has two hydro                                                               
projects. One  is a high-mountain  lake dam project which  can be                                                               
drained throughout the year. The other  is a run of river project                                                               
which only  functions with  flowing water, so  the unit  is taken                                                               
offline when  it freezes.  He said that  typically 30  percent of                                                               
Copper Valley's  electrical needs  are met throughout  the winter                                                               
with hydropower. This  year winter hit early,  so that percentage                                                               
fell from  30 to  20. The  other 70 to  80 percent  of electrical                                                               
needs  are met  from either  a cogeneration  project, which  is a                                                               
turbine located  at the Petro  Star refinery, or  multiple diesel                                                               
plants.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS   asked  where  the  run   of  river  hydropower                                                               
installation is located.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLION  answered the hydropower  installation is  located in                                                               
Valdez about  two miles from  the Solomon Gulch Project,  next to                                                               
the Valdez Marine Terminal.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:51:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL inquired  about ownership of the road  belt line as                                                               
it passes through different service areas.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLION  answered  that  ownership   of  the  line  will  be                                                               
determined  if  the  project goes  forward.  He  envisioned  that                                                               
ownership  would be  similar to  the existing  Railbelt line  and                                                               
probably  involve  an  Electric  Reliability  Organization  (ERO)                                                               
system.  Maintenance activities  and cost  would probably  be the                                                               
responsibility of  whichever utility owned the  service area, but                                                               
the  process  has  not  progressed   far  enough  to  make  these                                                               
determinations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL stated he might pose  the same question to the next                                                               
testifier.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:52:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP  asked if  the Copper  Valley area  population has                                                               
decreased over  the years,  because residents  have moved  to the                                                               
Mat-Su Valley for better electrical rates.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLION  answered that a  reduction in residential  loads has                                                               
occurred, and  it is fair  to say  that people have  been leaving                                                               
the area.  He said  whether due  to jobs  or electrical  rates, a                                                               
population  decrease has  occurred. He  noted that  the loss  has                                                               
been  tempered by  an increased  industrial load.  He added  that                                                               
large commercial  loads have picked  up with fish  processors and                                                               
other industries, but  most of these industries  are seasonal and                                                               
occur in the summer when electrical rates are competitive.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:53:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CURTIS  THAYER,  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Energy  Authority,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, testified  in support  of SJR  11. Mr. Thayer                                                               
said the Alaska  Energy Authority (AEA) mission is  to reduce the                                                               
cost  of energy  in Alaska  and  deliver core  services, such  as                                                               
improved energy  safety, reliability, and affordability.  AEA was                                                               
established in  1976 as a  public, independent  corporation owned                                                               
by the  state of Alaska  with a seven-member board  of directors.                                                               
He  announced  that,  for  context, AEA  owns  the  Bradley  Lake                                                               
Hydroelectric Project (also known as  Bradley). It is the largest                                                               
hydro  project  in  Alaska  and supplies  the  Railbelt  with  10                                                               
percent of its energy.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  detailed the route  and ownership of each  section of                                                               
the transmission line:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
• Bradley Lake to Soldotna is owned by Homer Electric.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
• Soldotna/Sterling to Quartz Creek,  which is  40-mile segment                                                                 
   through Coopers Landing, is owned by AEA.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
• Quartz Creek to Anchorage is owned by Chugach Electric.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
• Anchorage to Southcentral  is  owned  by  Matanuska  Electric                                                                 
   Association (MEA).                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
• AEA owns 170 miles of the intertie to Healy.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
• Healy to Fairbanks is owned by Golden Valley.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:55:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER stated  that AEA has participated  in various studies,                                                               
including the  Denali Commission Reconnaissance Study.  He stated                                                               
that, unlike previous  studies, the road belt  project is without                                                               
a sponsor. He  said that the project is  technically feasible but                                                               
has  an expensive,  estimated cost  of $1,000,000  per mile.  Mr.                                                               
Thayer said although the rail belt  project is a costly piece, it                                                               
is not  necessarily out of  alignment with line upgrades  AEA, in                                                               
coordination with the Railbelt utilities,  is currently poised to                                                               
undertake.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER explained  that AEA's focus is to  upgrade the Bradley                                                               
to  Anchorage  line  from  138  to 230  and  to  increase  Golden                                                               
Valley's power.  AEA has been  in communication with  the federal                                                               
delegation  to  obtain  federal   infrastructure  bill  funds  to                                                               
finance  these line  upgrades. He  reiterated that  AEA, and  the                                                               
five  utilities,  are currently  at  work  to improve  power  and                                                               
efficiency to  550,000 Alaskans.  Mr. Thayer emphasized  that the                                                               
road belt  project and AEA's  line upgrades will  not necessarily                                                               
compete for  federal funds, but previously  established goals are                                                               
AEA's focus.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:56:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER said  that the road belt project  would add critically                                                               
needed  redundancy to  Fairbanks. He  said that  the size  of the                                                               
line  is  admirable, but  a  concern  is  the limited  number  of                                                               
customers the line  would serve in low demand.  He explained that                                                               
in order  to run at a  capacity that allows reliability  and cost                                                               
efficiency, the line  has to maintain a certain  power level. Ft.                                                               
Greely would be  great tenant, but a couple  more anchor tenants,                                                               
like mines,  would be extremely  helpful in the economics  of the                                                               
road  belt project.  He said  the dilemma  is which  should occur                                                               
first: we  build and  they will  come, or they  come and  we will                                                               
build. He stated  that either way, AEA is supportive  of the road                                                               
belt project's long-term goals and  continued studies. Mr. Thayer                                                               
suggested that  in a  future hearing,  MEA, Chugach  Electric and                                                               
Golden  Valley Electric  explore  how the  existing line  upgrade                                                               
project might tie in/coordinate with the road belt project.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER reiterated  that the  focus of  AEA right  now is  to                                                               
improve power  from Bradley to  Anchorage. AEA will be  unable to                                                               
maximize power to Anchorage, Glennallen  or elsewhere without the                                                               
existing line upgrade. He emphasized  that upgrades worth $200 to                                                               
$300  million  dollars  are  slated  to  begin  within  the  next                                                               
eighteen months.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK acknowledged the presence of Representative Cronk.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:58:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  asked for  a status update  on the  Bradley Lake                                                               
facility's need for an increase in readily available water.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered  that the Babble Creek  Diversion Project was                                                               
completed  in  2020,  at  a  cost of  $47  million.  The  project                                                               
diverted  water  into  Bradley   and  has  surpassed  performance                                                               
expectations; it is  able to electrify 4,000 homes.  Prior to the                                                               
Babble  Creek Diversion  Project, Bradley  was able  to electrify                                                               
50,000 homes,  so the Babble  Creek Project resulted in  nearly a                                                               
10 percent increase.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  said  that  currently  in the  works  is  the  Dixon                                                               
Diversion. This will be a  coordinated effort between AEA and the                                                               
Railbelt  utilities.  He explained  that  it  will be  a  similar                                                               
diversion project,  but on a  much larger scale. Whether  it will                                                               
require new  generation or existing  generation, it  is predicted                                                               
to increase the  power from 24,000   30,000 homes,  So, the power                                                               
from Bradley is expected to increase  by 50 percent. He said that                                                               
AEA started to  look at the Dixon Diversion  Project study twelve                                                               
months ago,  but at  this time,  it is  estimated to  exceed $200                                                               
million dollars.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER provided a power cost gauge:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 • Bradley Lake is currently 4 cents per kilowatt, which is the                                                                 
   cheapest power on the Railbelt.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 • Natural gas is 7 to 8 cents per kilowatt.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 • Fire Island wind is 9.7 cents per kilowatt.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 • Railbelt utilities average 20 cents per kilowatt.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  Thayer  said  that hopefully  questions  about  the  Bradley                                                               
expansion and future expansion possibilities have been answered.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS commented that the  projected 50 percent increase                                                               
would be tremendous.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:01:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP asked if a line  upgrade is needed to maximize the                                                               
line's full potential and push Bradley's power north.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  answered yes,  that is correct.  He said  to simplify                                                               
the  answer, Bradley  can produce  up to  120 megawatts,  but the                                                               
service lines  are 75 megawatts.  The lines that  service Bradley                                                               
were installed prior to construction  of the Bradley facility and                                                               
were  designed to  send  power south,  whereas  the Bradley  Lake                                                               
Hydroelectric  Project  was designed  to  send  power north.  Mr.                                                               
Thayer said  that AEA  acquired the  Sterling Substation  and the                                                               
Quartz   Creek  Substation   (SSQ   Line),   in  December   2020,                                                               
specifically  to  begin  upgrades. He  explained  that  Fairbanks                                                               
receives 18 percent  of Bradley power, and at one  time, had a 40                                                               
percent line  loss. Mr. Thayer said  at 4 cents, this  is clearly                                                               
cheap power.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER   stated  AEA,  in  conjunction   with  the  Railbelt                                                               
utilities, is actively engaged in  line upgrades. The power sales                                                               
agreement,  signed  30  years ago,  authorizes  required  project                                                               
work,  which  allows  AEA  to  make  line  upgrades.  Mr.  Thayer                                                               
mentioned  that the  bonds for  Bradley were  paid off  this past                                                               
summer  2021, so  the debt  service normally  paid to  bonds, has                                                               
been rerouted  to fund  required project work.  He said  that AEA                                                               
has committed  to the $250  - $300  million line upgrade,  and he                                                               
noted  that  rerouted  "required  project  work"  funds  must  go                                                               
through the Department of Law.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:02:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked whether it  be homeowners or  industry, what                                                               
type  of ownership  structure on  the road  belt line  would best                                                               
benefit rate payers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER answered that an  ownership structure has not yet been                                                               
identified. Whether  it be a  co-op or investor  owned, ownership                                                               
structures  need  to be  studied  and  the  best benefit  to  the                                                               
consumer considered.  The project would be  a transmission asset,                                                               
so that would be part of  the analysis. He said that transmission                                                               
line power  can only  be dropped in  population centers  like Ft.                                                               
Greely,  Glennallen, mines  and Tok;  it cannot  be dropped  at a                                                               
nearby house just because it is located near the line.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:05:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL stated the cost  estimates were very rough. He said                                                               
that in  the past, AEA  has looked at potential  renewable energy                                                               
and other  generation sites  around the state.  He asked  for the                                                               
same  $500  million dollars,  are  there  other local  generation                                                               
opportunities that could be brought  online to provide power more                                                               
efficiently or cheaply.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  responded  that  more  research  is  necessary,  but                                                               
Bradley  is  already  a  state-owned asset  and  would  bring  on                                                               
additional power.  He said that  the project that would  make the                                                               
greatest  difference  on  the Railbelt  is  construction  of  the                                                               
Susitna-Watana dam.  It would take  the Railbelt from  an average                                                               
of 15 percent renewable energy  to 60-65 percent renewable energy                                                               
and,  based on  2014 cost  estimates,  would provide  power at  6                                                               
cents per kilowatt.  He added that Susitna-Watana  dam would have                                                               
a 100-year life. Mr. Thayer  recommended that the state seriously                                                               
consider  Susitna-Watana infrastructure  as a  long-term strategy                                                               
for a 450-to-600-megawatt plan. He stated  that if there is to be                                                               
a road  belt, this would  encourage mine activity,  because there                                                               
would be a source of cheap power.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL asked  whether the  power from  the Susitna-Watana                                                               
side  of the  valley  could be  sent to  the  communities on  the                                                               
Matanuska side of the valley.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER   answered  the  existing  infrastructure   would  be                                                               
utilized to  send the power  north to Fairbanks and  dropped down                                                               
to a  road belt. Another alternative  would be to send  the power                                                               
south into MEA  territory and cut across into the  Valley or into                                                               
the Glennallen  area. Susitna-Watana  power would be  designed to                                                               
provide the majority of power to Fairbanks and Southcentral, so                                                                 
looping in with the road belt could be easily done.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL stated that he interpreted the answer to mean no,                                                                 
you would need both.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:08:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP commented that Susitna-Watana power would be 64                                                                  
percent renewable for 75 percent of the Railbelt.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:09:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK opened public testimony on SJR 11; finding none, he                                                                 
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK held SJR 11 in committee.                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR 11 Sponsor Statement 1.24.2022.pdf SRES 1/24/2022 3:30:00 PM
SJR 11
SJR 11 Supporting Documents Map 1.pdf SRES 1/24/2022 3:30:00 PM
SJR 11
SJR 11 Supporting Documents Map 2.pdf SRES 1/24/2022 3:30:00 PM
SJR 11
SJR 11 Denali Commission Roadbelt Intertie Reconnaissance Engineering Report.pdf SRES 1/24/2022 3:30:00 PM
SJR 11
SJR 11 Historical HJR 10 Supporting Documents and Project Description.pdf SRES 1/24/2022 3:30:00 PM
HJR 10
SJR 11